#Atheism – Religion IS Delusion

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There’s been a bit of pushback, mostly from ‘moderates’ and militant agnostics on this. I don’t think there’s any real way to get around the fact that religious belief meets the definition and the objections are spurious.

“See… I can get you what you want, I can. I can get you anything, you just have to talk to me, you have to trust me. You can trust me, ’cause I’m your priest, I’m your shrink… I am your main connection to the switchboard of the soul. I’m the magic man… Santa Claus of the subconscious. You say it, you think it, you can have it.”
– Lenny Nero, Strange Days

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Ian Kavanagh

I can see your reasoning but I can't accept that people who are religious or hold spiritual beliefs (For the record I too am an atheist) are mentally ill. If I understand you correctly you say that a religious belief is delusional and therefore a form of mental illness. If so then this is humanity's default state as throughout our history humans have held religious beliefs. Separate societies throughout history (and prehistory) have formed religious and spiritual beliefs and I suspect that there may have been some sort of evolutionary advantage to this. As a side note, currently someone close… Read more »

venusboys3

As a former believer I'd definitely agree with such beliefs being 'delusions'. What I'm not sure of is if it's really a problem that can or should be 'solved'. I think many/most humans are inclined to look for 'meaning' and will glom on to things that tell them who they are and what they're meant to do. If not religion/god then something… and some will engage with that delusion casually (as many Christians I know do… almost to the minimal level that chemists make use of the Bohr model mentioned here) while others will go in whole-hog and be willing… Read more »

gurugeorge

What we observe and experience, and can demonstrate as true or false by by means of argument and sensory evidence, either has an over-arching context and ground (religious belief) or it doesn't (materialism). By nature, unlike fairies, which are supposed to be observable by the senses, God, or the ground or context of Being, is not and cannot possibly be so observable, so it's no use complaining that He can't be. Neither position (the religious or the materialist) can be demonstrated by means of evidence, since the question is about what may or may not exist beyond the possibility of… Read more »

Confused Wolf

not sure if just me but audio (voice) started breaking up @ end??

listener523

I think you misunderstand our (I mean agnostics who find positive aspects of religion) position. All people everywhere believe things that are not true. I'll give an example that fits your dictionary definition of delusion. The Bohr model of the atom. Electrons do not move in neat little valence orbits. However believing in the Bohr model and acting on that belief is an excellent way to do an awful lot of chemistry. You, me, everyone believes a dozen such unreal things every day. It's a question of which unreal things we prefer to be common in our community. I prefer… Read more »

PRISON JUSTICE

Atheists are desperately involved in the spiritual warfare that rages within and around us. That's why they mock, hate and rage. Atheists are evidence of the very spirituality they wish to deny. They’re simply fighting for the defeated enemy of God. Their arrogance and hatred toward God is evidence of the very kind of spiritual warfare they claim not to believe in. Like it or not, wittingly or unwittingly, they're up to their necks in it. Atheists are afraid to lose their life and unwilling to bow before the author of life. What futility. If our gospel is veiled, it… Read more »