Michael Shermer & Ronald Bailey vs. Creationists – VIDEO


Michael Shermer & Ronald Bailey vs Stephen Meyer/George Gilder
Debate topic: Is There Scientific Evidence for Intelligent Design?
Date of debate: July 12, 2008
FreedomFest 2008, Las Vegas, NV



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Lmao, all i heard for 15 minutes is an elegantly wrapped argument from ignorance only to have him state after all that that we're not arguing from ignorance, pretty cool, I can see how a lay person who has not touched upon these subjects could be fooled by such arguments, especially if they reinforce their worldview/opinion/religion.

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Is there scientific evidence for ID? Nope. No. Nada. There's just evidence of religious motivation to put god into the classroom. Glad the courts were reasonable enough to see it that way. Keep it out of the classrooms. Keep it in the church.


Amazing to see ID destroy the feeble atheists and leave them writhing on the ground.


Woo hoo! First comment! Unless you ignore the entire fossil record, the ID creationists at best can only argue for occasional theistic intervention. But every instance where a designer might insert himself, has a naturalistic, evolutionary explanation. We know where new information comes from, Stephen Meyer, we can observe gene duplication and subsequent mutation in real-time. This is not a mystery. The ID creationist also dropped the ball on the question of falsification. Intelligent design is a kind of superstition.

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