“YouTube Atheists Have Failed”?

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Atheism on YouTube has failed. It continues to give cover to the most reprehensible members of their community that victimize attack and cause misery. Like Phil Mason. In other words you’re…

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SiriusMined

+HannibaltheVictor13 I agree with your points about Tf00t’s behavior, but I disagree with your solution on what to do about it. I don’t think we ever win if we emulate the worst traits of those we see as adversaries. By all means, call people out when it’s warranted, attack their credibility on their hypocrisy, and those of their defenders. But don’t emulate them. Hate speech laws are anathema to our society. You know that. I don’t doubt he broke the law, but it’s a law that I as a juror would nullify, were I were on a jury. I maintain… Read more »

noelplum99

I didn’t make it about free speech at all. The posts you are referring to was simply mocking your simplistic reasoning that would apply equally to someone you knew was posting videos as an atheist from Saudi Arabia. This was what you wrote: *I guess we are just suppose to ignore breaches of the legal institutions of other countries because reasons.* Maybe you are saying my example is different. Why? Reasons, perhaps? If Bewildered Ape thought Thunderf00t had broken Czech law and, being as concerned about Czech law as he is, wanted to do the dutiful thing he should have… Read more »

losoyo

You’re pissed off, I get that.. You’re not right on your points however..
Atleast not all of them.

destronia123

Hey Dood, it’s youtube. If you don’t like T-Foot, just ignore his videos
and stop acting like an obsessive butthurt narcissistic psycho. ;)

doot

I remember when I used to watch thunderf00t and actually think he was a
cool guy.

Then I grew up, moved out of my mom’s basement, went out into the real
world and realized he’s just an ignorant fuck that hates women and gives
atheists a bad name.

HannibaltheVictor13

Add a message to your video

Necromancer1230

As much as I enjoyed the “Why Do People Laugh at Creationists” series I’m more than happy to acknowledge that I think Phil Mason has proven to be a terrible human being in many respects. I do agree that if we had collectively slapped Phil before he went full retard we may have altered his trajectory enough to avoid even needing to engage in the apologetics in the first place. To quote Martin Niemöller: “When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I… Read more »

Zennistrad1

I think it might be prudent to disable the like bar just to deny
Thunderf00t’s worshipers the satisfaction of seeing the rating, since they
seem to think if they thumb you down enough it will somehow prove a point.

AureaPersona

Are you going to apologize to +Thunderf00t now for calling him a bad
scientist?

http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nchem.2161.html

Ilja

Bakunin, stout atheist and the man behind the quote “As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth”, have very cannily described the New Atheist movement. In the late 19th century. http://tinyurl.com/k4nta97 Very much shortened quote, original is better but too long for a youtube comment: “Those gentlemen are incorrigible metaphysicians, even when they fancy themselves materialists. It always seems to them that life follows from thought, and hence they believe their impoverished thought should direct life. The inveterate doctrinaires who call themselves free-thinkers are simply vainglorious egotists and cowards. Moreover they belong to… Read more »

losoyo

~12:20 – Yea, there in lies your issue to Hannibal.. You see.. Free Speech, atleast how the US does it.. Does allow him to do that with out fear of government intervention. That’s what Free Speech is. If other countries are going to have punitive actions, then that is stopping free speech. That doesn’t mean he can’t lose his job or that the culture shouldn’t shun him, but if he’s attacked for that, it’s no better (though far less punitive) than what is happening to a blogger in Saudi Arabia being Lashed. Again, the Blogger is being treated far far… Read more »

Deep Ashtray

If Tf00t is violating the laws of the Czech Republic and that his actions fall under the state’s jurisdiction, would not his offending videos warrant Flagging? If he is promoting hate speech and violence as you claim here, doesn’t that violate community standards? Because if he is actually breaking Czech law as you claim as fact here, then Google is responsible for allowing it to be broadcast on their site the same way it has been found responsible for allowing DMCA material to be broadcast, and as such open to criminal culpability as well as civil litigation. If you believe… Read more »

Grave Crow

As an atheist myself,i find this idea new atheist are selling that religion
is the root of all evil and that atheists are rational silly and
dangerous,fundementalists like thunderf00t use pseudoscience instead of
religion to justify their bigotry. Not to mention that much like
fundementalist Christians they will reject scientific facts that dont
confirm their bigotry,its unbelievable. They are fundementalists,i have no
idea how to deal with them, talking to venomfangx never worked, they are
the venomfangxs of atheism.

Ruby Dynamite

I tried confronting Tf00t several times in videos, but of course my channel
wasn’t particularly big even back then, plus I was a woman they couldn’t
hit on or objectify, so of course they weren’t interested in listening to
me. xp

paul carter

So every speeder, jaywalker, etc. you would report?

AureaPersona

4:40 “As satire” except that was not at all what happened, he was
photoshopped into porn which was then uploaded to a porn site on an account
which impersonated thunderf00t. It was an malicious attack, not satire.

Nice revisionism there…. *PS.* Look up what apologetics means, someone
interested in ancient history should really know their Greek better.

TheRecoveringZombie

Jesus. I’m so sick of the whole FREE SPEECH™ drum beating that goes on, especially as applied by the Youtube atheist masses. First, freedom of speech is not absolute. You can only use your free speech within the confines of the law. If the law says you cannot say XYZ under certain circumstances, then you best not say XYZ unless you’re willing to break the law. Second, freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from the criticism or consequences of the shit you say. Every time Thunderf00t has encountered push back for the shit he pulls, he starts screaming about his… Read more »

Rorschach Romanov

In summary: Given that you’ve failed in the arena of debate, and miserably
so I humbly declare, you want to silence the opposition through force. This
is standard operating procedure for totalitarian assholes and has been for
centuries: from Calvin (against Servetus) to Stalin (against everyone).
Fuck you.

Ilja

Honestly, I don’t think anyone has any moral obligation to consider the legal status of what they do at all; while it may be practical in order to avoid getting hurt by the juridical system, I don’t see any *moral* obligation to follow the law. I think the law should stem from morals, and morals should never ever stem from the law; I find that thinking incredibly dangerous. However, I also think that consequences are far more relevant to what action to take than a specific ruleset (whether personal or juridical). And the consequence of reporting Mason might be that… Read more »

Lavona Lewis

I had no idea there were so many laws against Holocaust denial in Europe.
Seems so strange to me. Well, thanks for the info on that.

Tarol Hunt

“If you see a crime being committed, don’t you have a moral obligation to
report it? And if you don’t report it, aren’t you responsible for having
done nothing?” – Hannibal

*Good point, Hannibal!* “Hello police? I’d like to report a man who goes by
the handle HannibaltheVictor13, for making threats of violence against
someone. He said he was going to harm someone *if it’s the last thing he
does*. He’s also claimed that he will *knock his dick in the dirt* which is
a gender specific slur as well as a threat of violence.”

Funwithlogic

Lol I trolled one of the smaller MRAtheists off of YT, so many ppl bitching
about free speech. Yet (in PMs) I made it clear that he should stop YT bc
his channel was violating German laws and he is trying to immigrate there.
Maybe Phil will do the same?

CrowdDemon

Despite his encouragement of people to mock your weight you can at least
point to the fact you wash your hair… Unlike some tree trunk necked
people.

Mic Mac

Can you tell the article(s) of Czech’s law that thunderf00t has broken
according to you ?

Laughing Witch

Hey Hannibal I don’t see the statutes can you put them in the low bar I
have been wanting to look at that

Gussie Jives

I just stopped watching the Magic Sandwich show for fear he’d turn up… is
he still a regular?

Alexander Shuster

I am an atheist on YT and I don’t feel like I have failed.

Perfectly Human

I must be clueless. Who’s Phil Mason? Thunderfoot?

Dùbhghlas MacDùbhghlas

So you’re an atheist. Yup projection. Blaming others. I didn’t know atheist
was monolithic group that had follow an set ideology.

LOL

Tarmo Kolsar

8 minutes in and not a single thing said that would prove your point. All i
hear is “he did something bad. i will not show evidence but i keep
repeating it for a while then claim i proved it.” What did he do?
So much accusations of being a monster and a liar. what did he do?

Snow Mystique

Transphobes get whipped in…*Sensational Transylvania*.

wyvernlord23

Did.. Did you just argue that we should kill Caesar? BrutustheVictor

Bob Toddlah

Phil Mason will continue as if nothing happened. Nothing has/or will
happen. You’re a sad man with a grudge, and it shows.

paul carter

So you are now going to be the police. 

losoyo

As someone who is atleast on good terms with you hannibal, I think you’re
pretty off on this one.

Laughing Witch

We were all bewildered until the Bewildered Ape showed up.

Just to point out, you mentioned that if he just said it was political
speech it would be ok, but what he said about the Holocaust is still what
would have gotten him in hot water even if he labeled it as free speech.
The real issue is if he were a scientist and the same environment existed
that existed under Nazi rule who thinks he would act ethically and save
lives versus destroy them or at least look the other way??????

99jivvity

Why not Poland? Why not Romania? Just curious. 

paul carter

Youtube fascist

Laughing Witch

I am glad we are all now seeing that is was truly ethical for Bewildered
Ape to send that letter. He was right and I hope at least he has to
explain to his employers what the hell he was thinking.

kissfan7

“This isn’t a matter of free speech. This is a violation of a legal code.”

A legal code that violates free speech, just so we’re specific.

Phil Mason is an asshole, but being an asshole should not be enough to
imprison someone.

paul carter

You sound butthurt

Laughing Witch
Laughing Witch

Do you have the contact info for his employer or should I get it from
Bewildered Apes video. We should totally make a letter writing campaign 

Laughing Witch

HERE COME THE FANBOYS 

can’t see the video- which makes me very sad because the Tim Curry pic is epic!

Ah crap, they switched it to private! :/